In this post, we’ll show you how to build a 1080p capable gaming build for less than 50K. This PC should be able to run almost all modern titles at 60 FPS ultra without breaking a sweat. Without further ado, let’s get started:
Best Budget CPU for Gaming: Intel Core i3-9100F
Price: Rs. 6,150 (Link)
| Cores/Threads | Base Clock | Boost Clock | Cache | TDP | Memory Support |
| 4/4 | 3.60GHz | 4.20GHz | 6MB L3 | 65W | DDR4-2400MHz |
Intel’s lower-end 9th Gen CPUs are actually quite competitive when it comes to gaming performance. The Core i3-9100F is a quad-core CPU lacking an iGPU, unlike most Intel chips. However, a boost clock of 4.2GHz and strong IPC delivers frame rates north of 100 FPS in most games. That’s more than what your graphics card will render, so don’t worry about a CPU bottleneck. Just a reminder, the 9th Gen i3 is comparable to the 6th and 7th Gen i7 flagships. All three are quad-core parts based on the Skylake core.
Best Budget Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 6GB
Price: Rs. 16,328 (Link)
| Memory | 6GB GDDR5 |
| Boost Clock | 1800MHz |
| Cores | 1408 |
| Mem. Clock | 8Gbps |
| Bus Width | 192-bit |
| PSU | 450W |
| Dimensions | 228*131.5*41.5 mm |
| Connectors | 1 x 6-pin |
| Warranty | 3 Years |
The GeForce GTX 1660 is undoubtedly the best graphics card for 1080p gaming. While the GTX 1660 Super is capable of running most games at 1440p ultra, it’s slightly out of our budget and you don’t really need it for 1080p 60 FPS gaming. The Turing encoder on the 16 series cards will come in handy if you’re into streaming or YouTubing. Of course, you don’t get ray-tracing but then again none of the games in this bracket support it, so it doesn’t really matter.
Best Budget Motherboard: Asus TUF H310 Plus Gaming
Price: Rs. 6,170 (Link)
| CPUs Supported | 8th & 9th Gen Intel |
| Memory | 2 x DIMM, Max. 32GB @ Up to 2666MHz |
| PCIe | 1 x PCIe 3.0 x16 2 x PCIe 2.0 x1 |
| Storage | 4 x SATA 6Gb 1 x M.2 Socket 3 |
| USB Ports | 4 x USB 3.1 Gen 1 port(s) 6 x USB 2.0/1.1 port(s) |
ASUS’ TUF lineup has some of the best gaming components you’ll find on the market. With a sturdy build and slick design, the TUF H310 gaming motherboard strikes the right balance between price and quality. It’s the ideal for pairing up with both the Core i3-9100F as well as the Core i5-9400F. With support for up to 32GB of DDR4 RAM @ 2666MHz via two DIMMs, a PCIe x16 slot for a dedicated GPU, 4 SATA ports and an NVMe, it should be sufficient for all your devices.
Best Memory for 40K INR Build: Adata XPG Flame 8GB DDR4 @ 2666MHz
Price: Rs. 2,250 (Link)
Unlike AMD’s Ryzen chips, the Intel Coffee Lake processors aren’t sensitive to memory, so there’s no need to splurge for an expensive kit. The Adata XPG flame has been tested to run at 2666MHz which is the upper limit for the Core i3. There’s no need to go with dual-memory in case of an Intel as the performance boost usually isn’t as pronounced. Regardless, if you feel strongly about it you may add another 8GB DIMM.
Power Supply: Corsair CX450
Price: Rs. 3,430 (Link)
The Corsair CX series is one of the best budget power supplies in the market. It’s not modular but does come with Bronze certification which is more than what you can ask for at this price point.
Cabinet: Antec NX300
Price: Rs. 3,250 (Link)
Antec has some really pretty cases in the entry-level and budget segments. Most of these cabinets come with RGB lighting, a tempered glass side-panel, gorgeous design overall.
Storage: Adata Ultimate SU630 480GB
Price: Rs. 3,820 (Link)
When you’ve got money for just one drive, it’s better to get a moderate-sized SSD rather than an HDD. If you can afford it, however, I suggest getting a fast SSD worth 3-4K bucks and a WD Black HDD for storing games. These days you run out of storage real fast.
Summary: Best Gaming PC Build Under Rs. 40,000
| Component | Name | Price |
| CPU | Intel Core i3-9100F | Rs. 6,150 |
| Graphics Card | NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 | Rs. 16,328 |
| Motherboard | ASUS TUF gaming 310-Plus | Rs. 6,170 |
| Memory | Adata XPG Flame 8GB | Rs. 2,250 |
| SSD | Adata Ultimate SU630 | Rs. 3,820 |
| Power Supply | Corsair CX450 | Rs. 3,430 |
| Case | Antec NX300 | Rs. 3,250 |
| Total | Rs. 41,398 |
Hardisk is not included i think so because 480gb ssd can’t be enough for storage
60 fps in csgo is just not enough for competitive play, doesnt mean we need to take it up a notch and get more expensive hardware. even a 10 year old pc can run can at 100 fps (source: mine). also single channel ram really diminishes your performance, best to go for dual channel, which the poster doesnt seem to know – so I took the liberty to say it myself. sure one more ram stick may cost more money but you can always find a way by trading ram stick for other less expensive component.
you are wrong
This setup would run csgo alabove 100 frams and you cimould upgrade the RAM to 32 later idlf you go for 8gb single for mow
It will if we buy a GTX 1650 super much cheaper than 1660 but has head to head performance with an rx580 , the price of 1650 super is 14,000 rs and buy saving a buck on our GPU we could spend it on CPU and buy ryzen 3 3200g much better than i3 9100f in overall performance and features, and am4 socket motherboards are also cheaper and ddr4 3000 mhz corsair vengeance 16 gb kit is under 6,000 rs like with this parts the overall performance will also be better than the build shown above
What about now 2021 ? Do u got any recommendations about any build?
Going for a Amd Ryzen 3 2200G processor might be better, mosly due to the really cheap A320 motherboards that are available supporting 3200MHz RAMs, which are priced very close to 2666MHz RAMs nowadays. (e.g., the Asus Prime A320M-K motherboard)
Why are you not using the and ryzen 5 2600 it is cheaper
Here is the best bang for the buck PC for 2020.
Trust me its a console killer and price is also way
below that of consoles.
AMD Ryzen 3600
B450 Motherboard
and Rx 570 for the GPU.
Enjoy and have a nice day.
Hello Team , Kindly help me with the Best Configuration and Specs that Need to be changed on my Existing PC to the Gaming purpose.
My budget is around 40,000 and below the Specifications on PC.
Please have a look and provide a best solution , It will be a great Help.
Processors
Number of sockets 1
Number of threads 2
APICs
Socket 0
— Core 0 (ID 0)
— Thread 0 0
— Core 1 (ID 1)
— Thread 1 1
Timers
ACPI timer 3.580 MHz
Perf timer 10.000 MHz
Sys timer 1.000 KHz
Processors Information
Socket 1 ID = 0
Number of cores 2 (max 2)
Number of threads 2 (max 2)
Name AMD Phenom II X2 545
Codename Callisto
Specification AMD Phenom(tm) II X2 545 Processor
Package Socket AM3 (938)
CPUID F.4.2
Extended CPUID 10.4
Brand ID 29
Core Stepping RB-C2
Technology 45 nm
TDP Limit 79.2 Watts
Core Speed 3013.3 MHz
Multiplier x Bus Speed 15.0 x 200.9 MHz
Base frequency (cores) 200.9 MHz
Base frequency (ext.) 200.9 MHz
HT Link speed 2008.8 MHz
Stock frequency 3000 MHz
Instructions sets MMX (+), 3DNow! (+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSE4A, x86-64, AMD-V
Microcode Revision 0x10000DB
L1 Data cache 2 x 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L1 Instruction cache 2 x 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L2 cache 2 x 512 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L3 cache 6 MBytes, 48-way set associative, 64-byte line size
Max CPUID level 00000005h
Max CPUID ext. level 8000001Bh
Cache descriptor Level 1, I, 64 KB, 1 thread(s)
Cache descriptor Level 1, D, 64 KB, 1 thread(s)
Cache descriptor Level 2, U, 512 KB, 1 thread(s)
Cache descriptor Level 3, U, 6 MB, 2 thread(s)
FID/VID Control yes
FID range 4.0x – 15.0x
Max VID 1.350 V
# of P-States 4
P-State FID 0xE – VID 0x10 – IDD 33 (15.00x – 1.350 V)
P-State FID 0x7 – VID 0x18 – IDD 25 (11.50x – 1.250 V)
P-State FID 0x2 – VID 0x20 – IDD 21 (9.00x – 1.150 V)
P-State FID 0x100 – VID 0x2A – IDD 17 (4.00x – 1.025 V)
Package Type 0x1
Model 45
String 1 0x7
String 2 0x6
Page 0x0
CmpCap 2
ApicIdCoreSize 4
TDC Limit 66 Amps
Boosted P-States 0
Max non-turbo ratio 15.00x
Max turbo ratio 15.00x
Max CPU COF 30
Core Performance Boost no
P-State 0, FID 0xE – VID 0x10 (15.00x – 1.350 V)
P-State 1, FID 0x7 – VID 0x18 (11.50x – 1.250 V)
P-State 2, FID 0x2 – VID 0x20 (9.00x – 1.150 V)
P-State 3, FID 0x100 – VID 0x2A (4.00x – 1.025 V)
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 0
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 1
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 2
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 3
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 4
PERFEVT 2999.0 MHz
Temperature 0 45 degC (113 degF) (Core #0)
Temperature 1 45 degC (113 degF) (Core #1)
Power 00 89.10 W (Package)
Clock Speed 0 3013.26 MHz (Core #0)
Clock Speed 1 3013.26 MHz (Core #1)
Core 0 max ratio 15.0 (effective 15.0)
Core 1 max ratio 15.0 (effective 15.0)
Chipset
Northbridge AMD 790X rev. 00
Southbridge AMD SB700 rev. 00
Graphic Interface PCI-Express
PCI-E Link Width x16
PCI-E Max Link Width x16
Memory Type DDR3
Memory Size 4 GBytes
Channels Dual, (Unganged)
Memory Frequency 669.6 MHz (3:10)
CAS# latency (CL) 9.0
RAS# to CAS# delay (tRCD) 9
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 9
Cycle Time (tRAS) 24
Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 33
Command Rate (CR) 1T
Uncore Frequency 2008.8 MHz
Memory SPD
DIMM # 1
SMBus address 0x50
Memory type DDR3
Module format UDIMM
Module Manufacturer(ID) Transcend Information (7F4F000000000000000000)
Size 2048 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC3-10700H (667 MHz)
Part number JM1333KLU-2G
Serial number 00083C36
Manufacturing date Week 46/Year 09
Number of banks 8
Nominal Voltage 1.50 Volts
EPP no
XMP no
AMP no
JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
JEDEC #1 6.0-6-6-16-22 @ 444 MHz
JEDEC #2 7.0-7-7-19-26 @ 518 MHz
JEDEC #3 8.0-8-8-22-30 @ 592 MHz
JEDEC #4 9.0-9-9-24-33 @ 666 MHz
DIMM # 2
SMBus address 0x51
Memory type DDR3
Module format UDIMM
Module Manufacturer(ID) Transcend Information (7F4F000000000000000000)
Size 2048 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC3-10700H (667 MHz)
Part number JM1333KLU-2G
Serial number 00083C36
Manufacturing date Week 46/Year 09
Number of banks 8
Nominal Voltage 1.50 Volts
EPP no
XMP no
AMP no
JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
JEDEC #1 6.0-6-6-16-22 @ 444 MHz
JEDEC #2 7.0-7-7-19-26 @ 518 MHz
JEDEC #3 8.0-8-8-22-30 @ 592 MHz
JEDEC #4 9.0-9-9-24-33 @ 666 MHz
Monitoring
Mainboard Model GA-MA790XT-UD4P (0x000003D9 – 0x66012A00)
LPCIO
LPCIO Vendor ITE
LPCIO Model IT8720
LPCIO Vendor ID 0x90
LPCIO Chip ID 0x8720
LPCIO Revision ID 0x8
Hardware Monitors
Hardware monitor ITE IT87
Voltage 0 1.34 Volts [0x54] (CPU VCORE)
Voltage 1 1.60 Volts [0x64] (DDR)
Voltage 2 3.30 Volts [0xCE] (+3.3V)
Voltage 3 12.32 Volts [0xBA] (+12V)
Voltage 5 -10.82 Volts [0xA9] (-12V)
Temperature 0 39 degC (102 degF) [0x27] (System)
Temperature 1 57 degC (134 degF) [0x39] (CPU)
Fan 0 4272 RPM [0x9E] (CPU)
Fan 4 1329 RPM [0x1FC] (FANIN4)
Fan PWM 0 0 pc [0x0] (FANPWM0)
Fan PWM 1 0 pc [0x0] (FANPWM1)
Fan PWM 2 99 pc [0x7F] (FANPWM2)
Hardware monitor D3D
Hardware monitor AMD ADL
Voltage 0 0.95 Volts [0x3B6] (GPU)
Temperature 0 45 degC (113 degF) [0x2D] (GPU)
Fan 0 1136 RPM [0x470] (GPU #0)
Clock Speed 0 100.00 MHz [0x64] (Graphics)
Clock Speed 1 150.00 MHz [0x96] (Memory)
Clock Speed 2 n.a. (Processor)
PCI Devices
Description Host Bridge
Location bus 0 (0x00), device 0 (0x00), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x1002
Model ID 0x5958
Revision ID 0x00
Description PCI to PCI Bridge
Location bus 0 (0x00), device 2 (0x02), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x1002
Model ID 0x5978
Revision ID 0x00
Description PCI to PCI Bridge
Location bus 0 (0x00), device 4 (0x04), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x1002
Model ID 0x597A
Revision ID 0x00
Description PCI to PCI Bridge
Location bus 0 (0x00), device 10 (0x0A), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x1002
Model ID 0x597F
Revision ID 0x00
Description Serial ATA Controller
Location bus 0 (0x00), device 17 (0x11), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x1002
Model ID 0x4391
Revision ID 0x00
Description USB Controller (OHCI)
Location bus 0 (0x00), device 18 (0x12), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x1002
Model ID 0x4397
Revision ID 0x00
Description USB Controller (OHCI)
Location bus 0 (0x00), device 18 (0x12), function 1 (0x01)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x1002
Model ID 0x4398
Revision ID 0x00
Description USB 2.0 Controller (EHCI)
Location bus 0 (0x00), device 18 (0x12), function 2 (0x02)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x1002
Model ID 0x4396
Revision ID 0x00
Description USB Controller (OHCI)
Location bus 0 (0x00), device 19 (0x13), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x1002
Model ID 0x4397
Revision ID 0x00
Description USB Controller (OHCI)
Location bus 0 (0x00), device 19 (0x13), function 1 (0x01)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x1002
Model ID 0x4398
Revision ID 0x00
Description USB 2.0 Controller (EHCI)
Location bus 0 (0x00), device 19 (0x13), function 2 (0x02)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x1002
Model ID 0x4396
Revision ID 0x00
Description SMBus Controller
Location bus 0 (0x00), device 20 (0x14), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x1002
Model ID 0x4385
Revision ID 0x3C
Description IDE Controller
Location bus 0 (0x00), device 20 (0x14), function 1 (0x01)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x1002
Model ID 0x439C
Revision ID 0x00
Description Multimedia device
Location bus 0 (0x00), device 20 (0x14), function 2 (0x02)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x1002
Model ID 0x4383
Revision ID 0x00
Description PCI to ISA Bridge
Location bus 0 (0x00), device 20 (0x14), function 3 (0x03)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x1002
Model ID 0x439D
Revision ID 0x00
Description PCI to PCI Bridge
Location bus 0 (0x00), device 20 (0x14), function 4 (0x04)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x1002
Model ID 0x4384
Revision ID 0x00
Description USB Controller (OHCI)
Location bus 0 (0x00), device 20 (0x14), function 5 (0x05)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x1002
Model ID 0x4399
Revision ID 0x00
Description Host Bridge
Location bus 0 (0x00), device 24 (0x18), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x1022
Model ID 0x1200
Revision ID 0x00
Description Host Bridge
Location bus 0 (0x00), device 24 (0x18), function 1 (0x01)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x1022
Model ID 0x1201
Revision ID 0x00
Description Host Bridge
Location bus 0 (0x00), device 24 (0x18), function 2 (0x02)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x1022
Model ID 0x1202
Revision ID 0x00
Description Host Bridge
Location bus 0 (0x00), device 24 (0x18), function 3 (0x03)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x1022
Model ID 0x1203
Revision ID 0x00
Description Host Bridge
Location bus 0 (0x00), device 24 (0x18), function 4 (0x04)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x1022
Model ID 0x1204
Revision ID 0x00
Description VGA Controller
Location bus 1 (0x01), device 0 (0x00), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x1002
Model ID 0x6739
Revision ID 0x00
Description Multimedia device
Location bus 1 (0x01), device 0 (0x00), function 1 (0x01)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x1002
Model ID 0xAA88
Revision ID 0x00
Description Serial ATA Controller
Location bus 2 (0x02), device 0 (0x00), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x197B
Model ID 0x2363
Revision ID 0x02
Description Ethernet Controller
Location bus 3 (0x03), device 0 (0x00), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x10EC
Model ID 0x8168
Revision ID 0x02
Description Network Controller
Location bus 4 (0x04), device 7 (0x07), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x1814
Model ID 0x3060
Revision ID 0x00
Description OHCI FireWire Controller
Location bus 4 (0x04), device 14 (0x0E), function 0 (0x00)
Common header
Vendor ID 0x104C
Model ID 0x8024
Revision ID 0x00
DMI
SMBIOS Version 2.4
DMI BIOS
vendor Award Software International Inc.
version F8
date 09/08/2011
ROM size 1024 KB
DMI System Information
manufacturer Gigabyte Technology Co. Ltd.
product GA-MA790XT-UD4P
version unknown
serial unknown
UUID {34323030-4431-4337-4532-4643FFFFFFFF}
SKU unknown
family unknown
DMI Baseboard
vendor Gigabyte Technology Co. Ltd.
model GA-MA790XT-UD4P
revision unknown
serial unknown
DMI System Enclosure
manufacturer Gigabyte Technology Co. Ltd.
chassis type Desktop
chassis serial unknown
DMI Processor
manufacturer AMD
model AMD Phenom(tm) II X2 545 Processor
clock speed 3000.0 MHz
FSB speed 200.0 MHz
multiplier 15.0x
DMI Memory Controller
correction 64-bit ECC
Max module size 1024 MBytes
DMI Memory Module
designation A0
size 2048 MBytes (double bank)
DMI Memory Module
designation A1
size 2048 MBytes (double bank)
DMI Memory Module
designation A2
DMI Memory Module
designation A3
DMI Port Connector
designation PRIMARY IDE (internal)
connector On Board IDE
DMI Port Connector
designation FDD (internal)
port type 8251 FIFO Compatible
connector On Board Floppy
DMI Port Connector
designation COM1 (internal)
port type Serial Port 16450
connector 9 Pin Dual Inline (pin 10 cut)
connector DB-9 male
DMI Port Connector
designation Keyboard (internal)
port type Keyboard Port
connector PS/2
DMI Port Connector
designation PS/2 Mouse (internal)
designation No Detected (external)
port type Mouse Port
connector PS/2
connector PS/2
DMI Port Connector
designation USB (internal)
port type USB
connector Access Bus (USB)
DMI Port Connector
designation USB (internal)
port type USB
connector Access Bus (USB)
DMI Port Connector
designation USB (internal)
port type USB
connector Access Bus (USB)
DMI Port Connector
designation USB (internal)
port type USB
connector Access Bus (USB)
DMI Port Connector
designation USB (internal)
port type USB
connector Access Bus (USB)
DMI Port Connector
designation USB (internal)
port type USB
connector Access Bus (USB)
DMI Port Connector
designation USB (internal)
port type USB
connector Access Bus (USB)
DMI Port Connector
designation USB (internal)
port type USB
connector Access Bus (USB)
DMI Port Connector
designation USB (internal)
port type USB
connector Access Bus (USB)
DMI Port Connector
designation USB (internal)
port type USB
connector Access Bus (USB)
DMI Port Connector
designation USB (internal)
port type USB
connector Access Bus (USB)
DMI Port Connector
designation USB (internal)
port type USB
connector Access Bus (USB)
DMI Extension Slot
designation PCI
type PCI
width 32 bits
populated yes
DMI Extension Slot
designation PCI
type PCI
width 32 bits
populated no
DMI Extension Slot
designation PCI Express x16
type A5
DMI Extension Slot
designation PCI Express x16
type A5
DMI Extension Slot
designation PCI Express x1
type A5
DMI Extension Slot
designation PCI Express x1
type A5
DMI Extension Slot
designation PCI Express x1
type A5
DMI Physical Memory Array
location Motherboard
usage System Memory
correction None
max capacity 16 GB
max# of devices 4
DMI Memory Device
designation A0
format DIMM
type unknown
total width 64 bits
data width 64 bits
size 2 GB
DMI Memory Device
designation A1
format DIMM
type unknown
total width 64 bits
data width 64 bits
size 2 GB
DMI Memory Device
designation A2
format DIMM
type unknown
total width 64 bits
data width 64 bits
DMI Memory Device
designation A3
format DIMM
type unknown
total width 64 bits
data width 64 bits
Graphics
Number of adapters 1
Graphic APIs
API D3D
API ATI I/O
API ADL SDK
Display Adapters
Display adapter 0
ID 0x20C0007
Name AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series
Board Manufacturer PC Partner
Codename Barts
Technology 40 nm
Memory size 1024 MB
Memory type GDDR5
PCI device bus 1 (0x1), device 0 (0x0), function 0 (0x0)
Vendor ID 0x1002 (0x174B)
Model ID 0x6739 (0xE174)
Revision ID 0x0
Performance Level 0
Core clock 100.0 MHz
Memory clock 150.0 MHz
Performance Level 1
Core clock 600.0 MHz
Memory clock 1000.0 MHz
Performance Level 2
Core clock 775.0 MHz
Memory clock 1000.0 MHz
Win32_VideoController AdapterRAM = 0x40000000 (1073741824)
Win32_VideoController DriverVersion = 15.201.1151.1008
Win32_VideoController DriverDate = 11/04/2015
Monitor 0
Model ASUS PA238 ()
ID ACI23B1
Serial B9LMTF166907
Manufacturing Date Week 38, Year 2011
Size 23.1 inches
Max Resolution 1920 x 1080 @ 60 Hz
Horizontal Freq. Range 24-83 kHz
Vertical Freq. Range 50-75 Hz
Max Pixel Clock 170 MHz
Gamma Factor 2.2
Software
Windows Version Microsoft Windows 10 (10.0) Professional 64-bit (Build 17763)
DirectX Version 12.0
Thanks for recommending new processor vie looked around its cheap then others
we are streamers in youtube we want a full pc setup under 40k
There is no cooling system in this whole setup. Atleast add a cheap air coolers and 2 fans
you are wrong